Topic: Upgrading Thirdlane [Comments: 13]
escherrer

Wed, 05/05/2010 - 08:32 | Upgrading Thirdlane

Hello,

We are looking for feedback/recommendations on upgrading our MTU server. We are currently running Centos 4.7 with Thirdlane 6.0.1.78 firmware.

We are looking to upgrade to Centos 5.3 with the latest Thridlane firmware. Main reason is we have been experiencing issues the past several weeks with Kernel panics, and temporary loss of connectivity issues. So we are hoping an upgrade will resolve most if not all of these issues.

Has anyone else experienced these types of issues while on 4.7? Any recommendations on the best way to upgrade or best set up to go with? As far anyone using a server with Centos and what version seems to be stable?

Thanks,

Eric Scherrer
forethought.net

eeman

Wed, 05/05/2010 - 16:43 | no, you may be experiencing

no, you may be experiencing hardware issues.. will your upgrade include new hardware?

Erik Smith
CTO
BluegrassNet Voice
dCAP
Thirdlane Support by BluegrassNet Voice
eeman at bluegrassnetvoice dot com

escherrer

Wed, 05/05/2010 - 16:57 | Yes, we have actually ordered

Yes, we have actually ordered new hardware since it seemed the hardware could also be part, if not all of the problem.

escherrer

Wed, 05/05/2010 - 17:06 | I think our engineer was

I think our engineer was looking for possible hardward loads that seem that people are using that seem to be stable. Like using a 64 bit Centos load versus 32 bit. If either one of those have had issues on specific hardware, but stable on other hardware...etc.

eeman

Wed, 05/05/2010 - 19:30 | i always use 32bit. i got

i always use 32bit. i got burned pretty bad with crashes on a 64bit system that the community insisted didnt exist... soon as I reinstalled on the same hardware with 32bit my crashes went away. Plus a lot of licensed modules are 32bit only.

Erik Smith
CTO
BluegrassNet Voice
dCAP
Thirdlane Support by BluegrassNet Voice
eeman at bluegrassnetvoice dot com

escherrer

Wed, 05/05/2010 - 20:13 | Thanks Erik, that info does

Thanks Erik, that info does help. Can I ask what hardware you are using?

eeman

Wed, 05/05/2010 - 20:33 | it depends on the

it depends on the application.. for STE we have some customized supermicro hardware we did load testing on with calls in order to certify they work up to a set volume.

for MTE you might want more ass than that. The top of the line option is those HP DL-380 generation 6 servers. They use xeon 5530 or faster chips (quad core + HT), they have that quickPath circuit so they stay off the FSB when talking to each core, and the network controllers have a TCP/IP offload engine. They arent cheap though. Expect to pay north of $6k for them.

however, they have been the only hardware thus far to achieve 10000 call legs (aka 5000 calls).

Erik Smith
CTO
BluegrassNet Voice
dCAP
Thirdlane Support by BluegrassNet Voice
eeman at bluegrassnetvoice dot com

escherrer

Wed, 05/05/2010 - 21:08 | Do have any suggestions on

Do have any suggestions on how much RAM we should have since we can only do 4G on a 32 bit platform?

Eric

eeman

Wed, 05/05/2010 - 21:21 | youve been misinformed, the

youve been misinformed, the PAE kernel allows for more than 4gig

as an example

[root@lou03 modules.d]# uname -a
Linux lou03.xxx.xxxxxxx.xxx 2.6.18-164.15.1.el5PAE #1 SMP Wed Mar 17 12:14:29 EDT 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

[root@lou03 modules.d]# free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 8118 1221 6897 0 184 868
-/+ buffers/cache: 168 7950
Swap: 1983 0 1983
[root@lou03 modules.d]#

Erik Smith
CTO
BluegrassNet Voice
dCAP
Thirdlane Support by BluegrassNet Voice
eeman at bluegrassnetvoice dot com

escherrer

Fri, 05/07/2010 - 13:14 | I guess I was misinformed

I guess I was misinformed indeed, thank you.

In terms of doing our upgrade, we are currently running on Thirdlane 6.0.1.78 which is running on Centos 4.7 OS. The new hardware is going to be running on Centos 5.3 OS
My concern in doing this upgrade is that I was planning on just doing a restore from backup to put the exact same config onto the new server. But I'm concerned about the possibilities of not having everything work in the same manner as it was on 4.7.
Should that be a big concern?

rfrantik

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:10 | Kernel-PAE

Erik:

I used the TL ISO to do an install on one of my servers... then did a yum install Kernel-PAE... I had to edit the grub.conf file to get it to select the new kernel and I had to update/compile the DAHDI drivers. It seems to be working and running without errors. Is there anything else that needs to be recompiled for the new kernel?

It is very nice that it sees all the memory in the server now. Big Question: How much memory should I install? PAE goes to 16Gig... I have enough on hand to go to 8Gig or 12Gig... This is a dual Opteron machine that we would like to handle 100 simultaneous calls or so.

Thanks

eeman

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:15 | if you update dahdi you have

if you update dahdi you have to rebuild asterisk from 'make distclean' all the way to make install for it to find the new dahdi header files for chan_dahdi.so

8gig should be plenty

Erik Smith
CTO
BluegrassNet Voice
dCAP
Thirdlane Support by BluegrassNet Voice
eeman at bluegrassnetvoice dot com

rfrantik

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:27 | It almost sounds like I

It almost sounds like I shouldn't be able to use the PRI. But I know I didn't go that far and I was still able to make calls... odd.

I thought 8gig sounded good too.

Thanks.

eeman

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:29 | download and compile libpri

download and compile libpri before re-compiling asterisk

Erik Smith
CTO
BluegrassNet Voice
dCAP
Thirdlane Support by BluegrassNet Voice
eeman at bluegrassnetvoice dot com